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Big Look meeting draws
big crowd, big responses

 

By Roger Nichols
The Dalles Chronicle
October 4, 2008

The Big Look task force town hall meeting in The Dalles drew a big response Monday. Nearly 120 people showed up for the event at the Columbia Gorge Discovery Center, nearly as many as were at an earlier meeting in Klamath Falls. Those who attended were respectful, but not bashful about sharing their views.

Some felt the task force was a threat to Oregon’s existing land use laws; others felt that changes to those laws were long overdue.

Bob Nickelsen, of Hood River, said his orchard is surrounded on Highway 281 and on three sides by commercial zoning.

“I’m controlled by the Gorge Commission, the city council, the county commission, the upper valley council and the state,” he said, “so how do you solve all those problems?

“I’d like to shrink my farm enough to get it away from all the urban things that people don’t like. Just the day before yesterday, the fire department in Hood River went to the shopping center because they had a gas leak smell. Who caused it? My sprayer putting lime and sulfur with an east wind down to town.”

Bob Gove, of Mosier, echoed a sentiment clearly popular with some members of Monday’s crowd.

“I think the public did get involved twice,” he said, “when they voted on Measure 7 and when they voted on Measure 37. And both times, the opposition figured out some way to shoot it down. It’s time for the legislature and the governor to pay attention to what the voters say.”

Ken Maddox, of Hood River, was convinced that Big Look decisions had already been made.

“If you go to the Web site, you’ll see three principal documents, one of which is titled ‘preliminary recommendations,’ he said. “The date on that was May 30, four months ago. That first recommendation was to turn things over to local government. Local government, under Oregon land use laws, is supposed to encourage participation. What the local government in Hood River County did was to designate the planning commission as public participation and that’s it.”

Jack Mills was one of the original members of 1,000 Friends of Oregon, and was elected twice as a Hood River County Commissioner.

“This is an example of why we should not turn over the decisions for land use laws to the local county commissioner,” he said. “While I was a county commissioner a good friend and I were major stockholders and directors of a major Hood River business that just recently sold for over $5 million.

“My friend, in an unrelated business, broke the land use laws in taking out a large orchard as prime ag land. He thought if he got far enough into the project it would not be challenged.”

The case was challenged, by 1,000 Friends of Oregon and others. The case went to the county commission, and the commission approved the golf course.

“It went twice to LUBA [Land Use Board of Appeals] and the Court of Appeals,” Mills said, “and each time coming back to the county commission as illegal. Each time as a commission member, I felt I had to vote against my friend’s illegal project, where he might have lost over $2 million because of my vote. I lost a third bid for election as county commissioner because of my votes on that project. I’m not asking for sympathy, but I want you to know that county commissioners are too close to these decisions to be able to give a fair vote.”

Scott Franke of the upper Hood River Valley added his concern. “I have seen where local control would be very problematic,” he said. “There are incredible pressures brought. A lot of commissioners aren’t as able to resist as Jack was able to do. Even in Hood River County, where we try our best to do it right, it’s always riding the edge of what’s legally possible.”

The question of oversight was echoed by Matt Bowen, of The Dalles.

“I went out and got 400 signatures of people who valued our small-town lifestyle and brought it to our city council, and we were ignored,” he said, “How do you police the city council?”

Tom Mack, of Portland, a former Portland policeman who does land use regulation for Multnomah County, had the same question from a different view.

“I’m hoping that what you can take back to the legislators is to create a system that a common person can understand and work through,” he said, “because what I’ve seen is not that. I see an inflexible system that doesn’t bend, and not even the police officers in this state enforce the ORS standards the way land use planners and bureaucrats in the land use division enforce those laws. There has to be some flexibility to do something about that, and swiftly.”

He also said Measure 49 had sold the public a bill of goods, promising an express process to solve their problems.

“Everyone I talk to in Multnomah County is saying it will be 2010 before they’ll hear how their ‘express process’ is going, and that doesn’t seem acceptable to me and most of the people I talk to.”

The most novel concept of the evening belonged to Jurgen Hess of Hood River.

“Every time our cities grow, we take something from the natural environment,” he said. “I’d like to see a natural area growth boundary, flip it over. I think we have to respect the other species that live on this planet with us and think about it from their viewpoint. We’re not the top of the ladder here, folks.”

Despite the potentially divisive nature of the complex subject, attendees were polite and respectful.

When Jim Olson, of Dufur, said developers should cover the costs of added infrastructure, including roads, sewer and water systems, Mike Kitts, of Hood River, noted that he had built “probably 200 affordable homes” in the past two or three years, and that there should be exceptions for affordable housing, or costs would drive construction beyond what people could afford.

But both calmly delivered their thoughts without rancor.

Some expressed strong opinions — one farmer suggested that urban areas should have to “bear the pain” of increased regulation and the urban growth boundary should be restricted “until we see lots of high-rise apartment buildings all over the place,” but the overall tone was one of giving serious consideration to a serious topic.

Three more town hall meetings are scheduled, concluding Oct. 2 in Bend.

There are also “meeting in a box” kits available for other groups to facilitate additional meetings beyond the 10 the task force budget allows. They are available from the Web site.